Got this link for one knowledge Vintage Rolex guy – Philipp – on www.vintagerolexforum.com – again some WIS knowledge that is nice for me – and maybe others 😉
This time about the dial variation of the Rolex Red Sub (model 1680) – not mine – as it is the white version – A red 1680 cost about twice the asking price of the white 1680, just for your information.
I will have to keep a sharp eye open for these threads on different forums – I find the information fun, just like my collection of old National Geographic Rolex ads.
Link til the forum thread on the Rolex 1680 red dial (also known as the Red Sub)
And the Dial Information – from Mark I (first) to Mark 6 (last):
One of my favorite net forums are the vintagerolexforum.com – a place with the most knowledge on vintage rolex I can think of on the net.
Some of the latest post display rolex models on very rare rolex sub models (eg. 5510) where the price is above 50k US$.
Than made me think twice again on my next watch buy and what watch I would buy.
Well I can now feel in my bones that I will ONLY buy a watch I would wear daily. I’m not very into “safe queens”, and buying a old vintage watch for plus 50k US$.
On the next level I will only buy a watch I like the look of – I would newer buy a watch that I don’t like, but just becasue it is “rare”.
That is why I see my self much more as a watch owner, and less a watch collector.
I have the deepest respect for people collecting watches, owning the most perfect watch – NOS – and with all the B&P.
And also having all the sub models, or all versions of e.g. the rolex sub model 5513, etc…
That is why I like all my watches and will try to add a new one – but still unclear which model……
This should be seen as the watch you will be using when +60 years old 😉
Somehow I think I will continue to find watches fascinating and keep my little collection in place and replace my daily watch from time to time…
But what will be my daily watch when I’m +60 years old and maybe focus more on my family, reading, relaxing, travel or what I will have time for when that time comes in many years from now.
This is what I mean by the “most” ultimate watch for a WIS
Somehow I think my ultimate watch will be a rolex, either back to basic – my first rolex – the rolex Explorer II (16550)- it remains a classic and will look good in any outfit.
If money was not a option I could find my self getting the Patek Nautilus – classic watch – high end watch, classy, and one heck of a nice watch.
So even if I’m trying out many different watches as it is now, and HOPE I will continue to be a WIS, that can see the fascination and beauty of the watches.
Only time will tell – and it is not now or for the next couple of years 😉
This could also be a possible candidate
What do I look at when buying watches.
I only buy watches to wear as a daily watch, a watch that can be used without any thoughts to the circumstances one is to use the watch.
I’m a tool watch man by heart – don’t find that any dress watch will look good on me, don’t think watches with bling-bling will look good on me. No give me a simple, through steel watch that can be used in ALL situations.
Here are my priority list:
- Steel watch
- Dive watch – minimum 100 meters water resistance (for vintage – 300 meters for newer)
- Simple design – easy to read dial
- Have some weight and size
- Normal design – round watch – not square
- Classic – focus on the classic quality
Well to be true – I’m now drifting a little 😉
Have been looking into some other watches I might find super for me in the near future.
Rolex Daytona – Not a simple dial – but still a tool watch
Rolex Deep Sea – Not a simple dial – but the ultimate toolwatch
Vintage Rolex Gold Sub – Bling – Bling – but somehow the old classic gold subs have grown on me.
But in general I’m just a steel tool watch man … moving along – changing my mind as it is allowed.
My Tool watches:
Their exist five steps in buying a watch – I have successful passed the two first steps, and are now at step three looking forward to the final step five.
I have been through the process a number of times and can truly say that these steps exist.
Each step has a “period” and a “personal” involvement level.
I will try to explain the four steps I see in the “buying a watch”.
- Step 1: Looking for a new watch – looking around – what should be next
- Step 2: Having selected the watch to be
- Step 3: Transferee the money
- Step 4: The waiting game – waiting for the package
- Step 5: Final receiving the package – and unpacking game can start
There exist many different periods in each step …
- Step 1: Can take from 1 week to many years
- Step 2: Narrow down the watch – can take 1 hour to 2 weeks
- Step 3: One click – and it done
- Step 4: The longest time of the above – even if only takes 2 days – 1 week.
- Step 5: Slowly and in own time is the best time 😉
The Rolex Sea dweller 1665 keeps surprising me – every time I put it on – this watch becomes second nature to me.
I can really see that this first design, the case, the crystal, the dial, the complete package just works perfect together.
The Rolex Sea Dweller (the Deep Sea) has divided the rolex people – some like it, some don’t like it, some find it to big, some find it perfect in size, some see the strap as to small, some see the strap as perfect,… etc.
This will never be a issue with the original 1665 – this design just signs to your – don’t see ANY thing I would replace or change.
Well maybe if I could get a DRSD (Double Red Sea Dweller) – I could enjoy the fine joys of a little color in my daily work 😉
My Kind of watch 😉
This will forever be a true classic in my world.
This is personal …
This is very personal ….
I feel that the “old” panerai watches simple are the best.
It might be my fault – but I have not used time to look into the many many new Panerai models.
It is not a question on why Panerai keep putting out new models – that I can understand – the brand Panerai is valued and “money in the bank”.
But I also feel that one of the reasons for the success of Panerai is the community.
And that is maintained by the people that like panerai and the many forums on the net.
I don’t think that the special Panerai community is “controlled” by Panerai – Somehow the community around Panerai is a little like Apple.
If your a real fan – then all that the brand does is in order – price, models, etc..
But then again – I was not that much into Panerai before I got my first one – then I was “sold” – I liked the look, the size and I really love the community.
But that said – I’m now “moving” back a step or two – not jumping in to all the new models that are introduced – asking my self – what is it about the brand I like.
And after many thoughts – I fall back to my initial line – I like the “old” original models best.
Give me a 0,1,2,4,5,24,25,88 (and 127) any date over the newer models.
Well as I said – this is personal – and not to take away any of the credit from Panerai and their way of doing business.
What would Panerai be without the community?
My love for panerai is still there – but for now I will keep these “simple” models.
Have been busy checking out different forums that talk about watches – I do check out many forums as they all have some difference in the way. Some forums are for the real experts, some focus more on “fun” and again some have people with really in depth knowledge that is invaluable in case your looking for a specific watch or need to have some input on a buy you might want to do – but your a little unsure on the watch as it might have some special “feature” your not sure is 100% correct. Then I would recommend that you visit these forums and ask nicely ;.-)
I visit these different forums weekly if not daily and sometime I just check them out, reading other peoples entries, sometime I answer some questions posted by other members on the forum, and again sometimes I post some pictures.
Here is a limited list of the watch forums I visit – Your welcome to send additional suggestions – I’a a WIS and you can never have to many bookmarks.
First Forums with focus on Rolex.
- Timezone.com – US site with good general knowledge on a multiple number of brands – If your new in the watch forum world this is a good place to start.
- vintagerolexforum.com – As the name says -focus on Vintage Rolex – And the place to ask questions in any doubt of a vintage rolex – very high knowledge by forum members on vintage rolex
- TURF – the ultimate rolex forum – a Rolex forum that have existing for some time – A nice place to visit and find some nice pictures of rolex and rolex and women.
- TimeKeeperForum.com :: The friendliest Rolex forum on the ‘Net! – and that is almost true – check it out – especially if you new in the rolex forums – very friendly
- PuristSPro.com is again a forum with many brands – the “traffic on this forum is a little limited – and they do have strict forum guidelines – but I do check it out from time to time as some of the people on these forums have some good informtaion.
- rolexforums.com – A nice forum – but have not used to much
- And many more out there …
For Panerai forums the number I visit is a little more limited but the people and the community here is very special. I suggest you all try a visit different panerei watch forums and feel the community.
Panerai watch forums
ANd then there is the many forums that just talk watches – with no special brands in mind – these forums a also nice and can sometimes open ones eyes for new watches one would normally not have seen if you only look into forums dedicated to a single brand.
So to all Happy forum surfing….
Be aware of fake dials on especially vintage rolex models. As time goes and the prices on selected vintage rolex models are on the raise I have a number of rolex models I would only buy from very well known sellers. And when it comes to these watches the saying “buy the seller” is never more true.
With the fakes becoming better and better all the time, one must be very careful when paying a premium over the normal price – meaning you pay extra for the version of the dial.
The watch could be 100% ok – but put a “fake” /re-done dial in and the price might increase more that 100-500%.
Below is the list of watches I would be careful to checkout more than twice before spending the money, and again ONLY buying for a know and respected seller!